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Title: FBSL Website
Post by: Mike Lobanovsky on August 08, 2017, 09:16:42 AM
"Oxygen.dll is not downloaded often and can damage the computer". This is annoying ...
Yeah, that's a typical Vista+ system warning when downloading an unarchived binary from the web. Putting it in a zip should remove the message.

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@Mike: it is nice to hear from you again. What happened with FBSL? I cannot find the homepage of FBSL any more and also not the FBSL forum.
Thanks for your inquiry Roland,

A while ago the homepage and the phpbb3 site that are physically located on Arvixe servers in the US suffered yet another severe attack with malware scripts that used the FBSL net as a trampoline to spam the user's e-mail addresses with unwanted trash. We have cleaned the net SW of some 50 such scripts promptly but Arvixe is very, very slow to verify our work and restore access to the FBSL net from the outside world. We've been waiting for this to happen for nearly two months now and we still are.

Sorry for the inconvenience but we have absolutely no means at our disposal to speed up the restoration process.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: JRS on August 08, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
Mike,

You're more than welcome to use the AllBASIC.info site as a temporary home until you get the FBSL site working again.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Arnold on August 09, 2017, 12:20:47 AM
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...malware scripts...

These ongoing attacks, which are happening all over the world these days, are terrible. It is especially bad if public institutions and hospitals are affected. If some day someone should find a proper strategy to prevent all these attacks, he / she should be nominated for the Nobel Prize.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Kuron on August 12, 2017, 11:48:08 PM
A while ago the homepage and the phpbb3 site that are physically located on Arvixe servers in the US suffered yet another severe attack with malware scripts that used the FBSL net as a trampoline to spam the user's e-mail addresses with unwanted trash. We have cleaned the net SW of some 50 such scripts promptly but Arvixe is very, very slow to verify our work and restore access to the FBSL net from the outside world. We've been waiting for this to happen for nearly two months now and we still are.

Sorry for the inconvenience but we have absolutely no means at our disposal to speed up the restoration process.


If you need to get set up with a different hosting company, I am sure many of us would happily contribute some funds.  If you need a recommendation, I won't advertise on the O2 forums out of respect to Charles, but there is a local company I have used and put clients at for over ten years and have never had any issues. 
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Mike Lobanovsky on August 13, 2017, 01:37:30 PM
Thank you very much for your offer, Brice.

I shall discuss it with Gerome promptly. The problem as I see it is double: i) I'd like to use any such opportunity for switching over from the outdated phpbb3 to a more modern SMF but I'm not sure if the older forum database is convertible to the new format; and ii) the latest backup of forum database has been stored on the Arvixe server rather than locally, so that we need to get access to Arvixe anyway before the backup can be DL'ed locally for conversion, if at all possible. It would be a pity to lose even what little was left of the FBSL code base after the three major breakdowns we had suffered in the last 6 years alone.

I will return to you via email as soon as I talk with Gerome.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Kuron on August 13, 2017, 03:45:13 PM
You would think there should be some DB converters that would handle the necessary conversion.  It is not an uncommon problem to need to switch forum software.  ??? 

Sending you a PM.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: JRS on August 13, 2017, 10:29:08 PM
Mike,

E-Mail me a zip of your BB Forum DB and I'll take a shot at converting it to SMF.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Mike Lobanovsky on August 15, 2017, 09:01:20 AM
Thanks gentlemen,

I've talked with Gerome and we think we will follow Brice's suggestion. Gerome will try to DL the database again when he comes back to Paris from his summer vacation and regains his FTP access to Arvixe.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: JRS on August 15, 2017, 07:53:05 PM
I highly recommend keeping a current off line backup of your forum. I believe SMF has a BBForum DB converter as part of the software.

This forum wouldn't be here today if I hadn't.

If you need somewhere to host your site, I have room on my AWS EC2 server that O2, SB and AllBASIC runs on.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Mike Lobanovsky on August 16, 2017, 01:03:43 AM
John,

I do appreciate your generosity and I will inform Gerome of your offer immediately. The right to final decision is however his because as I've pointed out before, he is the sole copyright owner of FBSL as a product while I am legally just a member of its development team.

But frankly, I don't think it would be appropriate for a closed source and still partly commercial project like FBSL to abuse the geniality of an open host. :)

Regarding forum backups, I realize the importance of regular offline copies. Surprisingly ADSL connection is still widely used in France (Gerome's country of residence). I think it is the reason why many of his attempts to download ca. 2GB of content from the US server continuously in order to keep the forum database local archive updated regularly usually fail. I hope I will be granted full FTP access (as soon as Arvixe become responsive again) to keep the offline archive on my gear because, provided the server wouldn't limit the speed artificially, I am usually able to download the US content in my own country at a rate of approx. 1GByte of data per 1 minute of connection.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: JRS on August 16, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
If Gerome is in control of FBSL, I would rather not host the site. You need to find a better deal than what Gerome is offering you.

Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Mike Lobanovsky on August 17, 2017, 10:42:16 AM
If Gerome is in control of FBSL, I would rather not host the site.
This is your privilege as the host, John. Anyway my gratitude for the offer was sincere, and now I'm glad I wasn't too impulsive to take an unwise decision that might cause uneasiness among the parties involved at some future point in time.

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You need to find a better deal than what Gerome is offering you.
This time I think the privilege of having my own private perspective as to my relations with Gerome and FBSL is entirely mine. Neither of the two have ever let me down. On the contrary, there were times when I had some difficulty to keep up with the both. At any rate I have been, and still am, the FBSL project development lead for as long as I can remember, and that's what really matters to me and brings me joy of satisfaction and accomplishment. :)
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: JRS on August 17, 2017, 11:54:41 AM
Mike,

I'm glad you were able to patch things up with Gerome. The last I heard on this topic from you was that you were disgusted with the lack of interest in FBSL by Gerome and consuming himself with his music career.

My respect for your talents is unchanged and I think they are being wasted on FBSL if you have no control over direction,

John




Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Mike Lobanovsky on August 17, 2017, 02:07:57 PM
"Disgusted" would probably be too strong a word. But yes, irritation and uneasiness would pretty much describe what I felt when forced to intermediate between the users and Gerome as the author of language parts/layers they needed some advice on, or improvements in.

As for the music, Gerome's isn't the kind I would care for. I'm in for hard rock and heavy metal while he tends to punk, reggae and Latino. Anyway, my 300 kilos of retro audio gear is exactly what I've been amusing myself with too in the recent 9 months or so while on my long vacation off hobby programming for a temporary change in my social life. :)
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Kuron on August 17, 2017, 06:07:41 PM
I'm in for hard rock and heavy metal

A man after my own heart  ;D


Anyway, my 300 kilos of retro audio gear is exactly what I've been amusing myself with too in the recent 9 months or so while on my long vacation

Truly a man after my own heart.  LOL

I am blessed with an understanding and supportive wife who does not complain when I bring home a new toy.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Mike Lobanovsky on August 19, 2017, 02:21:14 PM
Last November my wife decided to refurbish the closet in her room. I was out of town for a few days then and by the time I came back home, the work had already been done. "Look", I said, "I recon one of my old notebooks was supposed to be there somewhere on the shelf in your closet. Where did you move it to, darling?". "Oh," she said, "That iron box really didn't look like anything you have in your study. I thought it was some toolbox incidentally forgotten by the workers who had done refurbishing three years before. So I told the taskmaster he could have it if he wished".

There on the spot I remained frozen and speechless for quite some time.

Suffice it to say the "iron toolbox" was in fact an IBM PC Convertible, a museum rarity item in perfect working order and near mint cosmetic condition quotable on eBay at around $800 in Europe. (Just FYI, the medium salary in my country is currently under $200 per month)

(https://lpost.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/IBM-5140-Convertible.jpg)


So, what I am left with is an original 15V DC IBM power supply with cables, two 720KB diskettes that booted the laptop into BASIC, complete user documentation, and of course, my beloved wife.  :D
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Charles Pegge on August 19, 2017, 02:42:18 PM

All my computers died well before they could become collectable antiques. I think our damp marine climate and lack of central heating  makes them go rusty or mouldy inside :)

I miss the old keyboards. They were so solidly engineered.
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Mike Lobanovsky on August 19, 2017, 03:24:56 PM
What I miss most of all are those transparent plastic top covers for the keyboards they used to supply even the cheapest brands with, to protect against dust accumulating in the slots between the keys. I hate having to vacuum clean my modern keyboards once a week of all those bread and chip crumbs and also hairs from my occasional beard. :)
Title: Re: FBSL Website
Post by: Kuron on August 19, 2017, 10:15:51 PM
I am with Charles, I miss the old keyboards not only for reliability, but my typing speed and accuracy was much better on them.

When I went to move to Nashville and was packing everything into the truck, when it came to all of my old computer systems in the closet, I said there is no way I am taking these with me, even though I had some semi valuable stuff.  I tossed them all in the dumpster.  The only old systems I kept are my old TI-99/4A computers.  One beige one silver.  Also kept my old Palm Pilot and my Psion Series 3a.

My normal computers, are still packed in boxes.  After a year of not being online or touching a computer, I simply bought a couple of budget notebooks to hold me over until I can get things unpacked and get my studio set up.

I still buy keyboard covers for my laptops if a cover is available for them.