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kryton9

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android
« on: July 14, 2011, 12:50:11 AM »
Wow android is odd. I didn't notice it when I had an android phone for a week. But with a tablet you notice right away.
1. Android is developed in Java, but it can't  run java.
2. The browser for android is named browser. You can't install the chrome browser.
3. You can't run java or java applets from the browser.
Really crazy when you think about it.

Charles Pegge

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Re: android
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2011, 01:39:40 AM »



What is it like browsing our forums Kent?

Peter

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Re: android
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2011, 03:41:44 AM »
It looks like that nasty Java !     >:(
I think that is seemingly dead.

kryton9

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Re: android
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2011, 06:08:22 PM »
To be very honest tablets are way over priced for what they are and  no where as productive or flexible as what you can do with the simplest netbook.
But where tablets shine is what I mainly got it for, that is having a device I can take to bed surf the web, watch documentaries and read ebooks.

It doesn't get hot like a netbook, for the most part has much better battery life and a lot easier to hold. I used to take my netbook to bed
but the keyboard was just getting in the way and making it hard to hold for any length of time.

Think of a tablet as a smartphone without the added features of the phone. So an android phone is actually a better device than an android tablet,
you can do more with it but the screen is smaller.

It really is as my Nephew put it, good for enjoying prepared content but not for creating it.

What is interesting is I was able to post on the Oxygen forums just fine but not on the thinBasic forums with the tablet. I am going to post now
on thinBasic forums and see if any other tablet users are having similar problems, but as I said Oxygen Forum is no problem at all.

The first tablet I bought had a 1024x600  resolution which was adequate. The Asus I got after taking the viewsonic back has
1280x800 resolution which is really nice and crisp with a good viewing angle. Which is good for use in bed. Also a very important
thing is that the Home, Back and Menu buttons are lit on the Asus and not on the Viewsonic. This is really important when in bed with
the lights off.

The Asus by default has no usb port. Crazy, I know. They want you to buy the $150 add on keyboard which does have usb ports.
They do however give one short cable that has a 30pin custom connector on the table end and a regular USB connector on the other.
This plugs into the electrical transformer and when unplugged from that can be use to plug into a pc usb port. But the cable is very short,
the viewsonic had a nice long cable and had a separate usb cable with normal and mini usb ports.

I think Google misjudged how fast we moved along in technology and I was fooled as well. I think they also messed up with the Chrome OS from what I read.
Being web based only for the most part is not working out as anyone thought. You don't have coverage everywhere and bandwidth is not uniform for a cloud based
OS.

Android however is really good for cell phone sized type devices.

But these tablets are too pricey when you can see what a normal equivalent priced notebook or even netbook can do and offer.

7" Tablet with great specs should be $100 and 10" tablets with good specs $200 and then I think they would be worth it.
My $400 for the Asus, not worth it to be honest. I can't imagine how bad I would feel with the $600 motorola or samsung tablets.
Those really are overpriced!

But all the sites hype them and I am a sucker for ads and the BS that tech reviewers put out. None of them point out the absurdity in
Android as I posted in the first post. I was shocked and then not being able to use Chrome browser was even more of a shock and then
to not be able to run java applets that really shocked me.

I tested running Unity Game Engines WebPlayer and it also can't run on anything other than Windows and Mac Os's. And Unity now offers
Android development. So something is really wrong with what Google decided to do.

I wonder if HP's WebOS will have the same flaws? If it can do the things that Android and Chrome can't, then it should be the winner!

JRS

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Re: android
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2011, 08:07:37 PM »
I was really excited about the mobile PC taking shape and Nokia backing a mobile version of Gtk called Maemo. I got ScriptBasic to run in the N900 emulator on Linux and using GTK-Server to generate mobile GUI apps. The CEO of Nokia sells out to Windows Mobile 7 and leaves the open source effort in limbo.

more ...

kryton9

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Re: android
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2011, 09:57:24 PM »
I was so shocked when I read that news John when it came out. The only competition now is perhaps WebOS and that is if they do things right compared to Google.



JRS

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Re: android
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2011, 08:56:08 AM »
I just checked the Nokia site for info on the status of the N900 and it has been discontinued.  :'(

I noticed a price of $190 for the N900 in a recent ad.

kryton9

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Re: android
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2011, 10:36:50 AM »
John something to keep a look out for is that they are modding devices with ubuntu. Here someone got ubuntu mounted via the SD card on the Nook Color. The Nook Color is a nice device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10306407#post10306407

efgee

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Re: android
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2011, 11:16:34 AM »
I just checked the Nokia site for info on the status of the N900 and it has been discontinued.  :'(

I noticed a price of $190 for the N900 in a recent ad.

The N900 has a horrible TV out as the screen ratio is off.
(TV is a 640x480 copy of the 800x480 build-in screen -> circles are ellipses)

If you are interested in such a device there will be 2 successors to the N900 (with hdmi out):
One for developers with slide-keyboard, the other one without keyboard for consumers.

If I'm not mistaken the name is N9 or something...
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