O2 vs. FB

[JRS]

Now once again, gentlemen, how is it all supposed to relate to OxygenBasic, please?

There is nothing wrong with standing behind what you believe in. You are responsible for the environment you surround yourself with. I just wish you would take an interest in SB for Windows and take Charles's magical DLLC extension module and make SB sing. I'm sure you have your hands full with FBSL so the idea is just a pipe dream.

[Kuron]

If you want to know my opinion - yessir, absolutely!

  At least you are honest.  My loyalty has always been to people, not products.  When it comes to products, I simply use the right tool for the right job.  Now that we are living in a time where software is expected to be cross-platform, including mobile support, one tool can rarely do everything and you need to use multiple tools.  Given that two of the Windows programming languages I use died unexpectedly last year, I am looking for replacements and trying out the various options.  I am also interested in CBASIC for educational purposes.



 

[JRS]

I am also interested in CBASIC for educational purposes.

Converting Brandy BASIC V to C BASIC might be a worthwhile endeavor and you would be contributing to the C BASIC project.

 

[Charles Pegge]

Hi John,

I picked up a bug affecting DLLC compiling in very recent updates:

Fixed here:

http://www.oxygenbasic.org/forum/index.php?topic=749

[JRS]

Thanks!

Any estimate when we might see another C BASIC installment?

[Charles Pegge]

I'd like to look at 64bit Assembly code, see how it goes with GCC. We are going to need it for a few projects. - possible C versions of DLLC.

[Kuron]

Converting Brandy BASIC V to C BASIC might be a worthwhile endeavor and you would be contributing to the C BASIC project.

I was more wanting to use C BASIC as an introduction to C.  But it will depend on if they can find some place to host a summer program for the kids.  The old community center that used to host the after school program and the summer program, now uses the computer lab for teaching illegal aliens English and computer skills.  So for the past two years, there has not been any programming classes for the kids.  Either way, I will still be exploring C BASIC.  Very intriguing product.

[JRS]

We are going to need it for a few projects. - possible C versions of DLLC.

Thanks for making my day!

[Mike Lobanovsky]

I hope to adopt you into the Linux family some day.  

Let your soul rejoice, John! I'm in the process of downloading Ubuntu 13.10.

[JRS]

Let your soul rejoice, John! I'm in the process of downloading Ubuntu 13.10.

64 bit?

[Kuron]

Converting Brandy BASIC V to C BASIC might be a worthwhile endeavor and you would be contributing to the C BASIC project.

I was more wanting to use C BASIC as an introduction to C.  But it will depend on if they can find some place to host a summer program for the kids.  The old community center that used to host the after school program and the summer program, now uses the computer lab for teaching illegal aliens English and computer skills.  So for the past two years, there has not been any programming classes for the kids.  Either way, I will still be exploring C BASIC.  Very intriguing product.

Given that the developer of the one version of Brandy is almost in tears because somebody forked an open source project (very ironic given the history of Brandy), I do not think I would touch Brandy under any circumstances.

Let your soul rejoice, John! I'm in the process of downloading Ubuntu 13.10.

 

[JRS]

Given that the developer of the one version of Brandy is almost in tears because somebody forked an open source project (very ironic given the history of Brandy), I do not think I would touch Brandy under any circumstances.

I was looking forward to David joining the All BASIC Developer forum and helping out with resurrecting the Brandy project. As it turned out David thinks Brandy isn't worth saving and his Windows version is all that counts. He seems to have the same disillusions as Richard (BBC4Windows) has but not trying to make profit off his work. As the original author stated (David Daniels) that Brandy is just an interpreter that uses BBC BASIC syntax and strives to be cross platform. It's not trying to emulate Acorn / RISC-OS processor functionality and only emulating graphic command set attributes for effect.

I'm looking forward once I have Brandy running on Android to extract the SDL graphics functions from Brandy and wrap them in the existing ScriptBasic SDL extension module offing a BBC approach to graphics programming. (sdl.so)
 

[Mike Lobanovsky]

The old community center ... now uses the computer lab for teaching illegal aliens.

Oh. Too bad...

[Kuron]

It truly is.  Getting kids into programming is a good thing.

[JRS]

It truly is.  Getting kids into programming is a good thing.

If I can get a couple interactive BASIC languages running on Android, maybe kids will create games and solutions to their math problems rather than text messaging their friends.