cool dll trick I found tonight

[kryton9]

1,224 header files
267 lib files

[kryton9]

Charles, here is the output of from cmd window of Xinput.lib using dumpbin with the /ALL option. Can we pull anything useful out of this?
C:\Code\WinSDK\Lib>dumpbin /ALL Xinput.lib > _test.txt

Code: OxygenBasic

1. Microsoft (R) COFF Binary File Dumper Version 6.00.8168
2. Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1992-1998. All rights reserved.
3.  
4.  
5. Dump of file Xinput.lib
6.  
7. File Type: LIBRARY
8.  
9. Archive member name at 8: /              
10. 4375874E time/date Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
11.          uid
12.          gid
13.        0 mode
14.      188 size
15. correct header end
16.  
17.     13 public symbols
18.  
19.       39A __IMPORT_DESCRIPTOR_XINPUT9_1_0
20.       5D4 __NULL_IMPORT_DESCRIPTOR
21.       710 XINPUT9_1_0_NULL_THUNK_DATA
22.       86C _DllMain@12
23.       86C __imp__DllMain@12
24.       9D6 _XInputGetState@8
25.       9D6 __imp__XInputGetState@8
26.       A48 _XInputSetState@8
27.       A48 __imp__XInputSetState@8
28.       8D8 _XInputGetCapabilities@12
29.       8D8 __imp__XInputGetCapabilities@12
30.       952 _XInputGetDSoundAudioDeviceGuids@12
31.       952 __imp__XInputGetDSoundAudioDeviceGuids@12
32.  
33. Archive member name at 1CC: /              
34. 4375874E time/date Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
35.          uid
36.          gid
37.        0 mode
38.      192 size
39. correct header end
40.  
41.     8 offsets
42.  
43.         1      39A
44.         2      5D4
45.         3      710
46.         4      86C
47.         5      9D6
48.         6      A48
49.         7      8D8
50.         8      952
51.  
52.     13 public symbols
53.  
54.         4 _DllMain@12
55.         7 _XInputGetCapabilities@12
56.         8 _XInputGetDSoundAudioDeviceGuids@12
57.         5 _XInputGetState@8
58.         6 _XInputSetState@8
59.         1 __IMPORT_DESCRIPTOR_XINPUT9_1_0
60.         2 __NULL_IMPORT_DESCRIPTOR
61.         4 __imp__DllMain@12
62.         7 __imp__XInputGetCapabilities@12
63.         8 __imp__XInputGetDSoundAudioDeviceGuids@12
64.         5 __imp__XInputGetState@8
65.         6 __imp__XInputSetState@8
66.         3 XINPUT9_1_0_NULL_THUNK_DATA
67.  
68. Archive member name at 39A: XINPUT9_1_0.dll/
69. 4375874E time/date Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
70.          uid
71.          gid
72.        0 mode
73.      1FE size
74. correct header end
75.  
76. FILE HEADER VALUES
77.              14C machine (i386)
78.                3 number of sections
79.         4375874E time date stamp Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
80.              114 file pointer to symbol table
81.                8 number of symbols
82.                0 size of optional header
83.              100 characteristics
84.                    32 bit word machine
85.  
86. SECTION HEADER #1
87. .debug$S name
88.        0 physical address
89.        0 virtual address
90.       46 size of raw data
91.       8C file pointer to raw data
92.        0 file pointer to relocation table
93.        0 file pointer to line numbers
94.        0 number of relocations
95.        0 number of line numbers
96. 42100040 flags
97.          Initialized Data
98.          Discardable
99.          1 byte align
100.          Read Only
101.  
102. RAW DATA #1
103.   00000000: 02 00 00 00 16 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 0F 58 49 4E  .............XIN
104.   00000010: 50 55 54 39 5F 31 5F 30 2E 64 6C 6C 28 00 13 10  PUT9_1_0.dll(...
105.   00000020: 07 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 00 00  ................
106.   00000030: 27 C6 12 4D 69 63 72 6F 73 6F 66 74 20 28 52 29  'Æ.Microsoft (R)
107.  00000040: 20 4C 49 4E 4B 00                                 LINK.
108.  
109. SECTION HEADER #2
110. .idata$2 name
111.        0 physical address
112.        0 virtual address
113.       14 size of raw data
114.       D2 file pointer to raw data
115.       E6 file pointer to relocation table
116.        0 file pointer to line numbers
117.        3 number of relocations
118.        0 number of line numbers
119. C0300040 flags
120.          Initialized Data
121.          4 byte align
122.          Read Write
123.  
124. RAW DATA #2
125.   00000000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
126.   00000010: 00 00 00 00                                      ....
127.  
128. RELOCATIONS #2
129.                                                 Symbol    Symbol
130.  Offset    Type              Applied To         Index     Name
131.  --------  ----------------  -----------------  --------  ------
132.  0000000C  DIR32NB                    00000000         3  .idata$6
133.  00000000  DIR32NB                    00000000         4  .idata$4
134.  00000010  DIR32NB                    00000000         5  .idata$5
135.  
136. SECTION HEADER #3
137. .idata$6 name
138.        0 physical address
139.        0 virtual address
140.       10 size of raw data
141.      104 file pointer to raw data
142.       E6 file pointer to relocation table
143.        0 file pointer to line numbers
144.        0 number of relocations
145.        0 number of line numbers
146. C0200040 flags
147.          Initialized Data
148.          2 byte align
149.          Read Write
150.  
151. RAW DATA #3
152.   00000000: 58 49 4E 50 55 54 39 5F 31 5F 30 2E 64 6C 6C 00  XINPUT9_1_0.dll.
153.  
154. COFF SYMBOL TABLE
155. 000 007BC627 ABS    notype       Static       | @comp.id
156. 001 00000000 SECT2  notype       External     | __IMPORT_DESCRIPTOR_XINPUT9_1_0
157. 002 C0000040 SECT2  notype       Section      | .idata$2
158. 003 00000000 SECT3  notype       Static       | .idata$6
159. 004 C0000040 UNDEF  notype       Section      | .idata$4
160. 005 C0000040 UNDEF  notype       Section      | .idata$5
161. 006 00000000 UNDEF  notype       External     | __NULL_IMPORT_DESCRIPTOR
162. 007 00000000 UNDEF  notype       External     | XINPUT9_1_0_NULL_THUNK_DATA
163.  
164. String Table Size = 0x5A bytes
165.  
166. Archive member name at 5D4: XINPUT9_1_0.dll/
167. 4375874E time/date Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
168.          uid
169.          gid
170.        0 mode
171.       FF size
172. correct header end
173.  
174. FILE HEADER VALUES
175.              14C machine (i386)
176.                2 number of sections
177.         4375874E time date stamp Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
178.               BE file pointer to symbol table
179.                2 number of symbols
180.                0 size of optional header
181.              100 characteristics
182.                    32 bit word machine
183.  
184. SECTION HEADER #1
185. .debug$S name
186.        0 physical address
187.        0 virtual address
188.       46 size of raw data
189.       64 file pointer to raw data
190.        0 file pointer to relocation table
191.        0 file pointer to line numbers
192.        0 number of relocations
193.        0 number of line numbers
194. 42100040 flags
195.          Initialized Data
196.          Discardable
197.          1 byte align
198.          Read Only
199.  
200. RAW DATA #1
201.   00000000: 02 00 00 00 16 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 0F 58 49 4E  .............XIN
202.   00000010: 50 55 54 39 5F 31 5F 30 2E 64 6C 6C 28 00 13 10  PUT9_1_0.dll(...
203.   00000020: 07 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 00 00  ................
204.   00000030: 27 C6 12 4D 69 63 72 6F 73 6F 66 74 20 28 52 29  'Æ.Microsoft (R)
205.  00000040: 20 4C 49 4E 4B 00                                 LINK.
206.  
207. SECTION HEADER #2
208. .idata$3 name
209.        0 physical address
210.        0 virtual address
211.       14 size of raw data
212.       AA file pointer to raw data
213.        0 file pointer to relocation table
214.        0 file pointer to line numbers
215.        0 number of relocations
216.        0 number of line numbers
217. C0300040 flags
218.          Initialized Data
219.          4 byte align
220.          Read Write
221.  
222. RAW DATA #2
223.   00000000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
224.   00000010: 00 00 00 00                                      ....
225.  
226. COFF SYMBOL TABLE
227. 000 007BC627 ABS    notype       Static       | @comp.id
228. 001 00000000 SECT2  notype       External     | __NULL_IMPORT_DESCRIPTOR
229.  
230. String Table Size = 0x1D bytes
231.  
232. Archive member name at 710: XINPUT9_1_0.dll/
233. 4375874E time/date Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
234.          uid
235.          gid
236.        0 mode
237.      11F size
238. correct header end
239.  
240. FILE HEADER VALUES
241.              14C machine (i386)
242.                3 number of sections
243.         4375874E time date stamp Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
244.               DA file pointer to symbol table
245.                2 number of symbols
246.                0 size of optional header
247.              100 characteristics
248.                    32 bit word machine
249.  
250. SECTION HEADER #1
251. .debug$S name
252.        0 physical address
253.        0 virtual address
254.       46 size of raw data
255.       8C file pointer to raw data
256.        0 file pointer to relocation table
257.        0 file pointer to line numbers
258.        0 number of relocations
259.        0 number of line numbers
260. 42100040 flags
261.          Initialized Data
262.          Discardable
263.          1 byte align
264.          Read Only
265.  
266. RAW DATA #1
267.   00000000: 02 00 00 00 16 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 0F 58 49 4E  .............XIN
268.   00000010: 50 55 54 39 5F 31 5F 30 2E 64 6C 6C 28 00 13 10  PUT9_1_0.dll(...
269.   00000020: 07 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 00 00  ................
270.   00000030: 27 C6 12 4D 69 63 72 6F 73 6F 66 74 20 28 52 29  'Æ.Microsoft (R)
271.  00000040: 20 4C 49 4E 4B 00                                 LINK.
272.  
273. SECTION HEADER #2
274. .idata$5 name
275.        0 physical address
276.        0 virtual address
277.        4 size of raw data
278.       D2 file pointer to raw data
279.        0 file pointer to relocation table
280.        0 file pointer to line numbers
281.        0 number of relocations
282.        0 number of line numbers
283. C0300040 flags
284.          Initialized Data
285.          4 byte align
286.          Read Write
287.  
288. RAW DATA #2
289.   00000000: 00 00 00 00                                      ....
290.  
291. SECTION HEADER #3
292. .idata$4 name
293.        0 physical address
294.        0 virtual address
295.        4 size of raw data
296.       D6 file pointer to raw data
297.        0 file pointer to relocation table
298.        0 file pointer to line numbers
299.        0 number of relocations
300.        0 number of line numbers
301. C0300040 flags
302.          Initialized Data
303.          4 byte align
304.          Read Write
305.  
306. RAW DATA #3
307.   00000000: 00 00 00 00                                      ....
308.  
309. COFF SYMBOL TABLE
310. 000 007BC627 ABS    notype       Static       | @comp.id
311. 001 00000000 SECT2  notype       External     | XINPUT9_1_0_NULL_THUNK_DATA
312.  
313. String Table Size = 0x21 bytes
314.  
315. Archive member name at 86C: XINPUT9_1_0.dll/
316. 4375874E time/date Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
317.          uid
318.          gid
319.        0 mode
320.       30 size
321. correct header end
322.  
323.   Version      : 0
324.   Machine      : 14C (i386)
325.   TimeDateStamp: 4375874E Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
326.   SizeOfData   : 0000001C
327.   DLL name     : XINPUT9_1_0.dll
328.   Symbol name  : _DllMain@12
329.   Type         : code
330.   Name type    : undecorate
331.   Hint         : 0
332.   Name         : DllMain
333.  
334. Archive member name at 8D8: XINPUT9_1_0.dll/
335. 4375874E time/date Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
336.          uid
337.          gid
338.        0 mode
339.       3E size
340. correct header end
341.  
342.   Version      : 0
343.   Machine      : 14C (i386)
344.   TimeDateStamp: 4375874E Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
345.   SizeOfData   : 0000002A
346.   DLL name     : XINPUT9_1_0.dll
347.   Symbol name  : _XInputGetCapabilities@12
348.   Type         : code
349.   Name type    : undecorate
350.   Hint         : 1
351.   Name         : XInputGetCapabilities
352.  
353. Archive member name at 952: XINPUT9_1_0.dll/
354. 4375874E time/date Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
355.          uid
356.          gid
357.        0 mode
358.       48 size
359. correct header end
360.  
361.   Version      : 0
362.   Machine      : 14C (i386)
363.   TimeDateStamp: 4375874E Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
364.   SizeOfData   : 00000034
365.   DLL name     : XINPUT9_1_0.dll
366.   Symbol name  : _XInputGetDSoundAudioDeviceGuids@12
367.   Type         : code
368.   Name type    : undecorate
369.   Hint         : 2
370.   Name         : XInputGetDSoundAudioDeviceGuids
371.  
372. Archive member name at 9D6: XINPUT9_1_0.dll/
373. 4375874E time/date Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
374.          uid
375.          gid
376.        0 mode
377.       36 size
378. correct header end
379.  
380.   Version      : 0
381.   Machine      : 14C (i386)
382.   TimeDateStamp: 4375874E Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
383.   SizeOfData   : 00000022
384.   DLL name     : XINPUT9_1_0.dll
385.   Symbol name  : _XInputGetState@8
386.   Type         : code
387.   Name type    : undecorate
388.   Hint         : 3
389.   Name         : XInputGetState
390.  
391. Archive member name at A48: XINPUT9_1_0.dll/
392. 4375874E time/date Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
393.          uid
394.          gid
395.        0 mode
396.       36 size
397. correct header end
398.  
399.   Version      : 0
400.   Machine      : 14C (i386)
401.   TimeDateStamp: 4375874E Sat Nov 12 01:10:22 2005
402.   SizeOfData   : 00000022
403.   DLL name     : XINPUT9_1_0.dll
404.   Symbol name  : _XInputSetState@8
405.   Type         : code
406.   Name type    : undecorate
407.   Hint         : 4
408.   Name         : XInputSetState
409.  
410.      Exports
411.  
412.        ordinal    name
413.  
414.                   _DllMain@12
415.                   _XInputGetCapabilities@12
416.                   _XInputGetDSoundAudioDeviceGuids@12
417.                   _XInputGetState@8
418.                   _XInputSetState@8
419.  
420.   Summary
421.  
422.           D2 .debug$S
423.           14 .idata$2
424.           14 .idata$3
425.            4 .idata$4
426.            4 .idata$5
427.           10 .idata$6
428.  

[kryton9]

Here is a dump from all of the header files in the latest Windows SDK without .net of all the constants. The lines ending with "\"
have even more lines of code that are not showing. Well over 190,000 lines. How do you determine the ones that are important? I am at a loss.
But still fun to look at.  

I have given you a lot to look at the last several posts. I will stop here and wait to hear from you where you would like assistance and what to work on next.

Update: The attached is the raw dump put together. Further below you will find a cleaned up version.

[Charles Pegge]

This is what happens when a team of 5000 programmers spend 17 years creating an operating system . Maybe 0.5% of it meets 99.9% of a project's requirements. As I see it, once you go beyond the basics, all the additional development resources come straight from the Web. It is the ultimate database.

It is very useful to have it all in a single file though. Looking up constants on the Web takes a lot of time.

With regard to FreeGlut and SDL etc, it should be possible to use the standard C headers with very minor extras, just like the OpenGl headers. Saves a lot of maintenance. The problem with many of these libraries is that they grow very large over the years. FreeImage, for instance is 2.5 megs, which is a bit OTT when JPEG and PNG is all you want from it.

Charles

[kryton9]

Here is best I can clean up constants Charles. It is sorted in alphabetical order, duplicates removed and any define starting with _ I commented out, they are at the beginning of the file. Almost 13,000.
The rest is lots of stuff. I am sure a lot we don't need.

One thing that surprised me in when I was cleaning up this file, the amount of header files without a header definition to ward off duplicate reads of it. Also how the naming of such defines were not standard.
You think on a project this big everything would be squeaky clean! From a world giant like Microsoft.

I just noticed after cleaning it is about half the raw file dump size

[kryton9]

With regard to FreeGlut and SDL etc, it should be possible to use the standard C headers with very minor extras, just like the OpenGl headers. Saves a lot of maintenance.

I would say freeglut would be a good one to do. Since glut is used in so many examples and actually is pretty cool. Can you do your quick voodoo on it or should I slave on it, next?

[kryton9]

After sleeping and waking up to do some more research, I realized the ConstsClean.inc file should just be used for a quick reference if ever needed. There are many things that could be removed from there that I am seeing now comparing it with the original header files. Besides we are not working on writing an operating system, so there are probably so many things that will never be used in daily programming. I guess going the VB6 route was complete enough.

[kryton9]

Having an all in one approach has it draw backs. Less work in the future, but bigger exe files each time.

What before was 8K is now 108K. So all this work this week was a waste in terms of being usable, but it was a good learning experience and we have good reference material for noobs like me trying to make use of windows dll functions.

Here is an updated winBinds.inc that works. It needs winConsts.inc and winTypes.inc. It has about 5 times as many functions as winFunc.inc. This can be used for quick and dirty testing when you don't want to mess with declaring the functions.

To make it clear. You use either winBinds.inc or winFuncs.inc as your main include file. Never both. Each will include winConsts.inc and winTypes.inc automatically.

[Charles Pegge]

One drawback with bind is that all the proc addresses in the list are linked in, whether they are used in the program or not. For a large list, this can add a lot unused code to a program.

Looking at FreeGlut, I doubt it adds much to what we already have. But I am going through the headers now. Oxygen gags on some of the syntax like:

typedef void (*GLUTproc)();
FGAPI GLUTproc FGAPIENTRY glutGetProcAddress( const char *procName );

[kryton9]

What freeglut will add Charles is cross platform ability! 

About the size, it is just neat that oxygen can have so many ways to access dlls. How your parser handles all the different syntax boggles my mind!!!