PowerBASIC

[JRS]

There is hope for PowerBasic holdouts.

Carnegie Mellon is Saving Old Software from Oblivion

[Brian Alvarez]

 John, with PluriBASIC you can also code in C++ (limited but expanding), and it compiles with (among others) PowerBASIC.

 There is something for everybody, you know? Even for Charles, because PluriBASIC can catch syntax errors not captured
by Oxygen right now, so, maybe if we team up he can focus on compiling code assuming it has no syntax erros and focus
on adding features.

[JRS]

... with PluriBASIC you can also code in C++ (limited but expanding), ...

Brian,

If you want to make some money doing this, focus your efforts on C++ and everything else secondary.

[Brian Alvarez]

 Although for me money is a necessity, not a priority I agree that I might end up needing
to do that if i want this to to get completed. I work on PluriBASIC because i enjoy doing
it, but there has to be a price to pay, yes.

 It is strange to me that even experienced programmers believe that the quality of the
compiled executable relies in the language in which it was programmed. The language is
merely the interface between the human programmer and the machine code.

 A language should be simple to learn and easy to debug. Intuitive and enjoyable. And the
language can be expanded to increase the quality of the generated executable. This said,
even a BASIC language could output high quality executables. While i am still not at that
point, thats what i would like to do. But it seems like im rowing up a waterfall of programmers
that believe otherwise.

[JRS]

I work on PluriBASIC because i enjoy doing
it, but there has to be a price to pay, yes.

There are two paths to take. Invest in your legacy for when you are gone or ask for money now while you can still spend it.

You may also want to take a peek at C# as it's now open source, written in itself and runs cross platform. If you can get something put together, you can promote it in Microsoft's App store.

[José Roca]

O2 uses the Microsoft OLE string engine, so it must compare to PB.

[José Roca]

Try it yourself.

[José Roca]

Anything but to use O2 by yourself

[JRS]

The only O2 code I have time to write is related to DLLC. I already have a BASIC project I manage and the primary developer for it. I also facilitate and contribute to the All BASIC forum in my spare time.i also have a company to run in real life.

Oh, I also give Charles a hand facilitating his forum.

[José Roca]

I'm not married but I recommend marriage very much... to others.

I didn't need your confirmation that you don't code with O2. It is self evident.

[JRS]

I don't need to prove anything to you. Getting you interested O2 took a major effort on my part. Let's not turn this into another pissing contest.

[JRS]

This deserves repeating.

With PowerBasic you can't define it as a pointer because it doesn't allow to pass a pointer variable by reference, but this limitation does not exist in FreeBasic.

If you want to write applications that work both with 32 and 64 bit, forget using dword/long for pointers, handles, etc. Better use the C++ aliases, such HWND for window handle, HBITMAP for bitmap handles, etc.

66 today. Anyone have a spare 6 to append and make my day? 

[JRS]

I always wondered if Drake bought PowerBASIC never seeing how a build is done. I think Zale took it with him to the grave.