Requests and support in the forum

[Mike Lobanovsky]

C'mon Chris, that's becoming downright ridiculous!

Is searching at least through the list of example scripts in your OxygenBasic installation all on your own also "beyond your ability"?

On many BASIC forums, exactly what you're doing here leads to a first-time warning, and then, to a ban, regardless of your level of competence as a programmer. Consider this message of mine as the first time warning.

[JRS]

Thanks Mike for saying something. We're an open souce project with overly kind members offering peer support. I don't think Chris is acting like a peer and wants us to write his code for him.

Before I offer anymore support, I would like a link to his employer's web site showing the existing PB app they're selling. I have reviewed Chris's posts which makes me believe he is trying to write 64 bit malware to get around detection.

[chrisc]

hello all

sorry for these inconvieniences, i'm very new to the programming world, and that i need to learn fast too
as i'm just asking for help.  you must at least give some allowance for a beginner like myself.

i'm not sure how to search all the scrips as i'm only using window explorer which can only search for filenames.
also i do not know how to search the contents of each file,  so can you please tell me what software that i can
use to search for file contents.  for example searching for SaveFiledialog amongst the o2bas files and inc files.

you see i have already done searching the oxygen_help.chm and as well as the top right search button of this
webpage. and bcos i couldn't find any more references on this topic, so this was my last resort.

@john, being a beginner programmer  i'm definitely not your peer or peer to any one here.  so in terms of contribution
you can see that i have contributed at least 2 programs  for the forum , which i believe are quite important too:

  Random strings and numbers generator
  http://www.oxygenbasic.org/forum/index.php?topic=1663.msg18021;topicseen#msg18021

  Program to set the date and time of a file
  http://www.oxygenbasic.org/forum/index.php?topic=1651.0

so if you allow me to be around, then you will have more programs to be contributed by myself as i'm translating
my company's million lines of PB programs to o2 ,  i would say that i will be a very good contributor.

as you see, O2 forum lacks important programs like encryption, decryption , FTP upload and download, editable listviews
which i'm in the process of translating to O2 .

if you ban me then i would join other blogs and gave up on O2, it would mean that O2 forum is not beginner friendly.
in fact i have contacted many PB members to join this forum, banning me would only signal some ugly response to
these prospective members. in fact several new O2 members were encourage by me to join here. 

[JRS]

Chris,

Are you saying you don't have the time or skill to open an O2 text example in an editor? Why didn't you post the link I asked for? The BS from you is getting so deep, I may need to put my boots on.

BTW, where are you from?

[chrisc]

@John

i'm only a beginner and still learning the ropes of programming, by acusing me a malware writer then
you are wrong.   i could hardly write any programs  how could i possibly able to write malware? 

i'm still learning to program after some experience as a part time vb6 programmer ,  i'm no match to you
 or to any other members in this forum who have had decades of programming experience. i used to be a computer
support tech and i don't have a college degree unlike your self.

 my new boss saw that i was a hardworking person and that's why he offer me this new job as a junior
 programmer.  he wants someone to search for a viable replacement of PB with 64bit native computing,
and to translate them PB to these languages as needed.

[JRS]

Are you unable to read as well?

Post the link to the 1 million line PB version and where you are from.

[Charles Pegge]

I would like Chris to continue what he is doing, please.

I may be able to provide better search facilities for scanning the o2 examples. There are over 1000 of them. I don't think Chris is involved in any nefarious enterprise.

[chrisc]

Thanxx a lot Charles

i do not mean to offend any one here, humbly i'm only a beginner at programming.
please give me due allowance for this. my sincere thanks and appreciation to everyone
here.

[JRS]

Chris,

My final advice is to upgrade your OS to something supported if you plan on doing work for people.

After April 11, 2017, Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Vista operating system. After this date, this product will no longer receive updates.

[Arnold]

I would like Chris to continue what he is doing, please.

Thank you Charles. I was sure that this is your attitude. Chris does not do anything else than learning about Oxygenbasic and its possibilities and how this can be compared with another language. This is the same what I was and am still doing. I wished there would be some more members in the forum who ask about some problem or share their experience. If there always exists a satisfying answer, is another question. But to suppress questions which are related to Oxygenbasic would be very counterproductive.

Roland

[AnthonCom]

Well, I agree with Charles to allowing Chris to continue with asking beginner's questions.
Chris has done a good job by asking questions relating to the conversion from Powerbasic to
Oxygenbasic as we are learning them too.  He is needed here to help build Oxygenbasic to
newer heights, by testing routines and functions as well as providing source codes.

Chris helps in easing the transition of Powerbasic programmers to Oxygenbasic, as many of
these programmers are afraid to ask. Note that it is never wrong to ask questions, and if
you don't have the answer or if you do not wish to help, it would be best that you keep quiet.

Yet there are those who do not like his attitude as it only implies of ulterior motives such as
building up their own Powerbasic to Oxygenbasic conversion tools and commercializing them.
To these members, your actions only speak volumes of your greed.

[JRS]

Yet there are those who do not like his attitude as it only implies of ulterior motives such as
building up their own Powerbasic to Oxygenbasic conversion tools and commercializing them.
To these members, your actions only speak volumes of your greed.

The fact is Mike and I have managed forums for years and you always run into the clown that thinks he can outsource his work to forum members and take the credit with his employer. Chris is being lazy and finds the kindness offered here as a group of suckers. What kind of company would hire a beginner programmer to convert a million line application from 32 bit to 64 bit when the programmer has no knowledge of either language or the environment? I have better ways to invest my time.

[Mike Lobanovsky]

Charles, of course if you want to have Chris stay, he will stay no matter what. That's because we are guests while you are the host. But I do not like seeing those copy-pasted yells for help day after day in my newsfeed with the keyword/API name being the only variable in the text. They don't quite qualify as being sent by a grown up man who claims to be studying OxygenBasic for a living. And from my perspective, my first warning stays as formulated earlier.

Chris, if you keep on ignoring my clear hints to change you behavior, I am going to assume that the only boss you're reporting your OxygenBasic progress to is your Mom. If this is the case, than you'd better identify yourself as such and then I will probably lift my warning and become more tolerant to your naughty postings.

Anthon, Sir,

There are at least four language developers here who have devoted decades of their time and effort to developing, with various degrees of success, several BASIC dialects that other people are coming to study. Until proven otherwise, I am going to assume you fall into that (quantitatively, not qualitatively!) second category of forumers.

We also have here quite a bit of cumulative experience in running, administrating, and moderating various open forums, and I assure you we know what kind of people usually come and go, and what their motives, aspirations and ambitions usually are, and how to cater for each one as best we can.

Yet open doesn't mean wild, and having said that, your "it would be best that you keep quiet" sounds a bit out of tune for a newcomer, don't you think?

Now will you please also elaborate more on your "ulterior motives" and "your actions only speak volumes of your greed"? My poor English wouldn't allow me to see clearly who you might address these sentences to on this forum.

[Charles Pegge]

As long as freedom of expression prevails, I think this forum will continue to work very well. Disagreements are eventually resolved, ulterior motives exposed, and errors corrected. Though our more sensitive members may be advised to come in with protective head-gear. 

[JRS]

You may be right. Even Aurel figured out how to behave on a peer forum.