Requests and support in the forum

[JRS]

We are discussing this when most of the world is still asleep. I have made my point very clear and welcome the input from the other members after they had their coffee.

The only thing missing from the attached image is Toto spinning on a spit over the coals. Oh, and with the caption of BITCH.

[Mike Lobanovsky]

On some consultation with my own dream council ((c)CEVP), I stand firm by my earlier proposition to create a specialized Newbie's Corner board with an embedded Self-Presentation child board as a means to meet and greet the newcomers.

Let Charles assume leadership over, and responsibility for, the kindergarten.

OxygenBasic is nowhere near being a "toy" language, and I don't expect that board to be overcrowded any time soon. I also believe it won't have a noticeable impact on the site bandwidth.

[José Roca]

José isn't going to do anything without good documentation. To build a framework is not a trivial task and can't be done without full knowledge of the language, and I don't want to suck Charle's time with hundreds of questions. All I need to work is a decent editor and good documentation.

[José Roca]

BTW if you pretend to attract PowerBasic users be prepared to answer chrisc-like questions, i.e. "what is the O2 equivalent to PB xxx?". The SDK programmers have left the PB forum time ago and are now using other languages. The remaining customers use DDT and most have very limited knowledge of the use of the Windows API. Do you really believe that they are going to use an alpha compiler that has not adequate tools and documentation? You're dreaming.

So far, you have got two DDT'ers. One is no longer visiting the forum and now you're kicking the second one. I'm afraid that all that you're going to get is what you have now: a compiler that will be used by two or three people to play with OpenGL.

[Charles Pegge]

O2 is still quite fuzzy around the margins, so writing a definitive manual at this stage would be rather frustrating. On the other hand, if a feature is deemed helpful or desirable, especially for the development of frameworks, it will be created in short order.

Without monetary or contractual pressure, I believe we can take a long-term view and really advance the BASIC language.

[Aurel]

what you have now: a compiler that will be used by two or three people to play with OpenGL.

Hey Jose...don't forget
And I'm the fourth pig in the yard 
but i'm not interested in openGL   
or I have hidden motives   

[José Roca]

what you have now: a compiler that will be used by two or three people to play with OpenGL.

Hey Jose...don't forget
And I'm the fourth pig in the yard 
but i'm not interested in openGL   
or I have hidden motives   

Ok. Two or three people to play with OpenGL and another one with hidden motives.

[JRS]

There are few BASIC users left. Everyone is now a BASIC developer.

[Mike Lobanovsky]

As long as there is at least one person using it, BASIC is alive.

The glass is half full rather than half empty.

[Aurel]

I know that writing documentation is a pain

Yes Jose ..you have a right about that .
BUT should be possible (for example) to decompile existing CHM
file with vahelp and modify things for oxygen basic.
There are lot of abandoned CHM.s about programming languages.
And again that also require lot of time... 

And to be clear...yes I AM USER .. in first place.

[chrisc]

@John

please accept my sincere apologies, as i thought your headstone threat is just a joke, so i
pull a joke on you about the police report ... and that got you so serious about it. So sorry

 you have been pulling side remarks and jokes in the PB forum yourself and i thought you are always joking
except that the Drakes didn't find that your comments funny

[JRS]

Charles,

I see you made your choice. I will no longer be participating in the O2 project.

[Charles Pegge]

Sorry about the clash, John.

This forum works very well from my point of view, and I hope you will feel differently in due course.

[JRS]

We pick our own poison.

Good luck with the project.

[Arnold]

Hi John,

Sometimes mistakes happen, but they do not always happen on purpose. To a degree, leniency should be possible.

Roland